All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Detroit Pistons

Our next match features two of the greatest rivals in NBA history. They met in four straight playoffs from 1988 to 1991, with three of those matches occurring in the Eastern Conference Finals. They represented the East in six straight NBA finals from 1988 to 1993, winning five championships between them. They also feature two of the biggest names from a golden age of NBA basketball – Michael Jordan, the most marketable athlete in NBA history, and Isiah Thomas, the baby-faced assassin who was Jordan’s chief adversary in his early career. The battle between the All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Detroit Pistons is steeped in tradition, and features a number of players who harbor ill will from this contemptuous rivalry.

All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Detroit Pistons

Key Matchups

Isiah Thomas vs. Chicago’s backcourt: Coach Phil Jackson values length in his starting backcourt, and earlier in the tournament, he eschewed starting a traditional point guard in favor of having Scottie Pippen serve as his primary ballhandler. While Pippen and Jordan make up the best defensive backcourt combination in the tournament, they are vulnerable to lightning-quick smaller guards who can penetrate. How will Jackson guard Isiah Thomas? He can stick with his starting lineup, and have Jordan chase around Thomas, or he can play the matchups and start Norm Van Lier, an eight-time all-NBA defensive selection who had the same listed height as Thomas (6’1”). If he starts Van Lier, Pippen would move to his natural small forward slot, and Chet Walker would slide into the sixth man role. This would create a bigger rebounding burden on the Bulls frontcourt, however, where they are already over matched, as described below.

Dominant defenses: These are two of the best defensive teams in the tournament. Combined, their players made 56 all-NBA defensive teams, and earned eight Defensive Player of the Year awards. Despite the plethora of scoring threats on each side, this series could feature a surprisingly high number of low-scoring games.

Advanced statistics vs. The Eye Test: Although Detroit features a slew of Hall-of-Famers, the advanced statistics of their superstars are not overwhelming, particularly Thomas, as described here. Despite this, their team members should complement each other well, with a nice mix of penetrators (Thomas and Dave Bing), shooters (George Yardley, Chauncey Billups, Joe Dumars, and even Bill Laimbeer), all-around dynamos (Grant Hill), low post scorers/rebounders (Bob Lanier, Bailey Howell, and Larry Foust), and dominant rebounders/defenders (Dennis Rodman and Ben Wallace). Chicago, meanwhile, features Michael Jordan, who is not only regarded by experts as one of the greatest players of all time, but who is the GOAT of advanced statistics, standing as the all-time leader in PER and WS/48. He’s surrounded by a mix of Hall-of-Fame and all-star level competitors, who don’t appear to fit as well with one another as the Detroit club. The Bulls lack outside shooting, which will make it easier for Detroit to employ a modified version of The Jordan Rules. Artis Gilmore, their best center, will also have a difficult time, since he will have to find a way to avoid clogging the lane for Chicago’s penetrators while working as their best low-post scoring option.

Biggest Mismatches

Chicago’s perimeter length: The long arms of Jordan and Pippen will loom large in this series, particularly when they share backcourt duties. Jerry Sloan and Luol Deng provide additional perimeter options who can use their length for defensive and rebounding advantages. Detroit’s perimeter options are not as long or athletic as Chicago’s (outside of Grant Hill, who will match up with Pippen frequently), which will help the Bulls make up for their lack of dominant frontcourt rebounding. Speaking of which…

Detroit’s rebounding advantage: Detroit should control the glass in this series. They feature four players who led the league in total rebounds for at least one year as a Piston (Foust, Laimbeer, Rodman, and Wallace), and two others who averaged in double figures in their time in Detroit (Howell and Lanier). While Chicago’s wings will try to help mitigate this advantage, Rodman, in particular, could go off in this series. The Bulls may again have to adjust their starting lineup for matchup purposes, with Horace Grant taking the place of Bob Love. However, benching Love and Chet Walker in favor of Grant and Norm Van Lier will put a much greater scoring burden on Jordan, and Chicago’s offense may stall without multiple shot creators against Detroit’s dominant defense.

X-Factor

Chicago’s spacing: The Bulls face several lineup dilemmas, as outlined above. If Phil Jackson starts Van Lier, Jordan, Pippen, Grant, and Gilmore, Detroit will pack the paint and force Chicago’s mediocre shooters to beat them from long-range. Chicago doesn’t have much shooting coming off the bench, either. Deng and Toni Kukoc were pedestrian three point shooters during their times in Chicago (shooting 33.1 percent and 32.7 percent, respectively), while Derrick Rose was below average, particularly for a guard. Phil Jackson’s triangle offense will help to create space for the Bulls scorers, but Detroit features a number of smart defenders who will try to cut off Chicago’s strengths.

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“Go to hell.”
“You too!”
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Results

Recently, the good folks at the Over & Back Podcast asked what the third greatest rivalry in NBA history was, conceding that the first two were Wilt vs. Russell and Magic vs. Bird. A good argument could be made for Isiah vs. Jordan, especially considering how impactful their teams were to the championship chase in the late 80s and early 90s. Neither of these stone-cold competitors would want to lose this historic matchup, which should be closely contested. Despite Jordan’s brilliance, the flaws of the Bulls roster are too much for him to overcome, and he suffers another heartbreaking defeat to his nemesis.

Detroit wins, four games to three.

Next Round

Detroit faces the All-Time Lakers.

All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Atlanta Hawks

The Atlanta Hawks have had a pedestrian existence in the modern-day NBA. In 2015, they made their first conference finals appearance since 1970. Their rich history in St. Louis, where they made four finals appearances in five seasons (winning one), is often discounted. The Chicago Bulls, meanwhile, are one of the glamour teams of the modern NBA. In the 1990s, they won six titles in eight seasons, behind the most marketable athlete in basketball history. Their pedestrian history beyond that run is often overlooked, as they’ve never made the NBA Finals before or since. While some may assume the match between the All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Atlanta Hawks is one-sided, a deeper look into their respective histories shows that this series could be one of the most competitive of our tournament.

All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Atlanta Hawks

Key Matchups

Chicago’s perimeter defense vs. Atlanta’s firepower: Atlanta’s high-scoring perimeter options (namely, Lou Hudson, Dominique Wilkins, and Pete Maravich) will have to overcome the greatest collection of perimeter defensive talent in this tournament. Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan, Norm Van Lier, Jerry Sloan, and Luol Deng were all plus defenders, combining for 30 appearances on all-NBA defensive teams. This group will also disrupt Atlanta’s ballhandlers (Lenny Wilkens and Mookie Blaylock), who will struggle to find open passing lanes, and who will also have to avoid turnovers when Chicago utilizes a full-court press.

Bob Pettit vs. Chicago’s forwards: Bob Pettit, who averaged over 26 PPG and 16 RPG throughout his career, will be a load for Chicago’s forwards to handle. Bob Love, Chicago’s nominal starting power forward, will initially match up with him, but will struggle to contend on the boards with the relentless legend. On the other side of the court, expect Love to use his quickness advantage to make Pettit work on defense. Chicago will also allot minutes to Horace Grant, who can better contend on the boards (especially on the offensive side, where he ranked in the top six of the league in offensive rebound percentage three years in a row), and Toni Kukoc, who has no chance of defending Pettit but will give him problems on defense with his all-court offensive game. Chicago’s best chance to contend with Pettit will be throwing these three distinct looks at him throughout the series, and making him work on the defensive end of the court.

Biggest Mismatches

The athleticism of Chicago’s starting backcourt vs. Atlanta’s guard rotation: In addition to their defensive brilliance, the Bulls feature perhaps the most athletic starting backcourt pairing in the tournament. Jordan and Pippen have a chance to overwhelm Atlanta’s smaller, less athletic defenders. Mookie Blaylock, Atlanta’s perimeter defensive ace, stood at only 6’0”, and will be more effective guarding Derrick Rose than either of these two wings. Atlanta’s ability to mitigate the damage that these two inflict may be the deciding factor in the series.

Atlanta’s three point shooting advantage: As great as Lou Hudson and Pete Maravich were, they would have been even more dominant with a three-point line, which was not in the league during their tenures with the Hawks. Expect them to take full advantage of this rule during this series. Chicago’s main weakness is their lack of three-point shooting. Because of their potential spacing issue, Coach Phil Jackson may give Toni Kukoc more minutes than anticipated, to open up space for Jordan, Pippen, Chet Walker, and Artis Gilmore inside. This may not work perfectly, however, since Kukoc was a mediocre three-point shooter in his time with the Bulls (.327 percent).

X-Factor

Can Atlanta overcome Chicago’s defensive onslaught? The Hawks have a well-balanced team, that may be deeper than Chicago’s. However, down the stretch of close games, can Atlanta find room to score? Expect Chicago to utilize a closing defensive lineup of Van Lier or Sloan, Jordan, Pippen, Horace Grant, and Joakim Noah. Atlanta will have to rely on the greatness of Pettit and their perimeter stars to overcome this unit.

Results

These two teams go back and forth in a seven game classic. Chicago’s defense is suffocating, but Atlanta proves resilient behind the great Pettit. In the closing game, Jordan and Pettit go mano a mano in a close encounter. The Bulls are able to shut down Atlanta’s other options, and pull away in the end.

All-Time Chicago Bulls vs. All-Time Atlanta Hawks
Pippen and Jordan help the Bulls pull away in game seven. Copyright © Lipofsky Basketballphoto.com

Chicago wins, four games to three.

Next Round

Chicago faces the winner of the All-Time Pistons vs. All-Time Clippers.

All-Time San Antonio Spurs vs. All-Time Sacramento Kings

Our next Sweet Sixteen match has a David vs. Goliath feel to it. On one side is a franchise that has become the gold standard in the sport, with 18 straight 50 plus win seasons (including the 1999 lockout, when they were on pace to win 61 games) since Tim Duncan arrived in 1997-98. On the other side is a franchise that has only won 50 games or more seven times in their 67 year history, and has failed to make the playoffs since the 2005-06 season. Is the battle between the All-Time San Antonio Spurs vs. All-Time Sacramento Kings one-sided? Or will the Kings’ long history help them advance in our tournament?

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Key Matchups

Sacramento’s offense vs. San Antonio’s defense: Sacramento has a roster built for high-scoring, fastbreak basketball. They have a lethal penetrator (Tiny Archibald), great shooting off the bench, and two starting big men who can shoot (Jerry Lucas) and pass (Chris Webber) like guards. They also have one of the finest all-around players in NBA history, Oscar Robertson, to get them tough baskets when needed. The Spurs feature three former NBA Defensive Players of the Year (David Robinson, Alvin Robertson, and Kawhi Leonard), along with Tim Duncan, one of the greatest team defenders in NBA history. If the Kings’ perimeter options get hot, expect a lot of minutes from Alvin Robertson and Leonard to try to slow them down. Coach Gregg Popovich may put the 6’7” 230 lb Leonard on Oscar Robertson during crunch time, to minimize his post-up game and to force him to try to score inside over the Spurs’ twin towers.

Biggest Mismatches

San Antonio’s size vs. Sacramento’s lack of size: The Spurs feature two of the greatest big men in NBA history, 7’0” 250 lb Tim Duncan, and 7’1” 235 lb David Robinson starting alongside one another. They also have 7’2” 240 lb Artis Gilmore coming off the bench. The Kings don’t have any seven-footers on their roster, and they’re starting a natural power forward (Chris Webber) at center. The Kings do feature one of the most prolific rebounders in NBA history, Jerry Lucas, at power forward, along with one of the greatest rebounding guards ever, Oscar Robertson. However, they both played in an era where teams missed an abundant number of shots, which inflated the raw rebounding totals seen at that time. It’s hard to believe that San Antonio won’t have an advantage on the boards in this series, and they’ll also have a decided advantage in protecting the paint on defense.

San Antonio’s offense vs. Sacramento’s defense: The Kings do not feature many players known for their work on the defensive end of the court. The Spurs have two former scoring champions (George Gervin and David Robinson), along with a plethora of scoring threats from both inside and out. It’s unclear how Sacramento will be able to stop San Antonio in this series, so they’ll have to outscore them to have a chance to succeed.

X-Factor

Can the Kings’ shooting keep them in this series? In addition to being a very perimeter-oriented team, Sacramento does not have the size to compete against Duncan, Robinson, and company inside, as described above. Sacramento has five Hall-of-Famers in their backcourt, one of the greatest shooting small forwards ever (Peja Stojakovic) and a starting power forward with a deadly mid-range jump shot (Jerry Lucas). Their best chance is to try to outshoot San Antonio, and to space the floor with three to four perimeter threats at all times.

Results

The Spurs offer the complete package on both ends of the court. While Oscar Robertson puts up a valiant effort, and the Kings’ shooters keep them in games, the Spurs dynamic big-man duo is too much for Sacramento to handle.

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Duncan and Robinson celebrate another victory
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Spurs win, four games to one.

Next Round

San Antonio faces the winner of the All-Time Warriors vs. All-Time Rockets.

All-Time San Antonio Spurs vs. All-Time Memphis Grizzlies

Well this doesn’t seem fair. The plucky Grizzlies, who have recently emerged as a Western Conference power, face a brutal first round match up against the All-Time Spurs. Can Memphis make this competitive? Here’s the tale of the tape.

San Antonio’s Advantages

Offensive firepower: We’ll keep it simple with the Spurs’ advantages. They can score from every position on the court, and play any style, depending on their opponent. Memphis’s strength is the play of their big men, but the Gasol brothers, Zach Randolph, and Shareef Abdur-Rahim are outmatched by Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Larry Kenon, John Beasley, and Artis Gilmore. They have no chance of hanging with George Gervin, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and the deep Spurs bench on the perimeter. Tony Allen will struggle to stay on the floor in this series; smart teams tend to sag off of him, knowing he won’t be able to hurt them from the outside. Shane Battier, a much better shooting threat, will get plenty of minutes, but he, Mike Miller, and Rudy Gay are still at a huge disadvantage offensively.

Defensive suffocation: Memphis is not an explosive team, relying primarily on their defensive might. With Duncan and Robinson, San Antonio has one of the best inside defensive tandems in the tournament. In addition, Alvin Robertson and Kawhi Leonard can shut perimeter opponents down off the bench. The Grizzlies also don’t have a go-to option who can consistently break down a defense.

Memphis’s Advantages

Sure, that’s not entirely fair. Memphis is a tough-minded team who will be very difficult to score against. However, it’s difficult to identify where they have an advantage over a deep San Antonio team.

X-Factor

49 – 21. That’s the number of years that the Spurs and Grizzlies have been in existence, respectively. While we’ve seen several newer franchises thrive earlier in this tournament (Orlando and Miami), it’s still very difficult to overcome this kind of age disparity.

Results

No surprise here. The Spurs control the series, and overwhelm Memphis on both ends of the court. Much like the 2013 Western Conference Finals, San Antonio dominates.

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Spurs sweep, four games to none.

Next Round

San Antonio faces the winner of the All-Time Kings vs. All-Time Nuggets.

All-Time San Antonio Spurs Team

All-Time San Antonio Spurs Team Infographic

The Spurs have come a long way from their days in the American Basketball Association. Since joining the NBA, this franchise has been a powerhouse. They’ve earned a .616 NBA winning percentage, which translates to 50.5 wins per season. They’ve appeared in six NBA Finals, and won five NBA championships. They’ve qualified for the playoffs in 35 of 40 seasons. In two of the five seasons they didn’t make the playoffs? They won the lottery (both literally and metaphorically), drafting future Hall-of-Famers David Robinson and Tim Duncan. As the number four seed in our tournament, the All-Time San Antonio Spurs team looks a contender to win it all.

Tony Parker, the starting point guard, is one of the fastest players in this tournament, and a deadly scorer who became a true force in the latter part of his career. While he doesn’t have the floor vision or all-around skill of many other point guards, he puts a ton of pressure on opposing defenders, and knows Gregg Popovich’s system as well as any player on this team. Due to the size and defensive might of their big men, this team can afford to start three guards, so both Manu Ginobili and George Gervin will play as the starting wings. Among shooting guards, these two rank sixth (Gervin) and seventh (Ginobili) all-time in PER. Gervin won four scoring championships in five seasons, and ranks ninth ever in NBA points per game. Ginobili ranks 20th ever (among all players, NBA and ABA) in win shares per 48 minutes. He also might be the best passer on the team, and will help to space the floor for their penetrators and big men.

The starting bigs are the aforementioned legends, Duncan and Robinson. The ageless Duncan has cemented his legacy with a mind-blowing 15 All-Star game, All-NBA, and All-NBA defense selections. He’s been at the center of every Spurs championship, and has a claim as a top-ten player in NBA history. Had advanced statistics been prominent in the 1990s, Robinson’s career may have been seen in a different context. Consider that Robinson ranks second in NBA history in win shares per 48 minutes, behind Michael Jordan. He ranks fourth in NBA history in PER, in between Shaquille O’Neal and Wilt Chamberlain. Robinson is the only player in NBA history to have led the league in scoring, rebounding, and blocked shots, and to have won Rookie of the Year, MVP, and Defensive Player of the Year.

The bench is very solid, with five former ABA and NBA all-stars. James Silas was a clutch player who earned the nickname “Captain Late” for his fourth quarter heroics. Alvin Robertson is a former Defensive Player of the Year, who is the all-time leader in career steals per game and steal percentage. The small forwards provide the team with different options: Mike Mitchell was an excellent scorer, while Kawhi Leonard is the reigning Defensive Player of the Year, who can attack opponents offensively as well. Larry Kenon was the Spurs first 20-10 man, and, with John Beasley (the franchise’s first star player) and Artis Gilmore, gives them great size to match up with any opponent.

This team can overwhelm opponents in a number of ways. They can play fast, with the three starting guards, and Robinson, one of the most athletic big men ever. They can play slow, with Duncan and Robinson dominating opponents inside. They can smother you defensively, with three former defensive players of the year in addition to Tim Duncan, who somehow never won the award, but rates as one of the greatest defenders ever. They also have one of the best coaches in this tournament, who’ll maximize the abundant talent on the roster.

Coach: Gregg Popovich

All-Time Franchise Winning Percentage (through 2014-15): .595

All-Time Chicago Bulls Team

All-Time Chicago Bulls Team Infographic

Due to Shaquille O’Neal’s recent Instagram post, I’m starting with a profile of the All-Time Chicago Bulls Team. With six NBA championships, the Bulls are seeded third in our tournament.

Michael Jordan is such a dominant player that it’s somewhat difficult to construct a team around him. I cheated a bit here, and listed Scottie Pippen as the primary ball-handler, since he was so versatile and often filled this role. The other guards that made the cut are a mix of dynamic scorers (Derrick Rose) and lockdown defenders (Norm Van Lier, Jerry Sloan). With a few more solid seasons, Rose certainly has a chance to start, though his fit with Jordan and Pippen (who would slide to his natural small forward position) would be awkward.

The starting forwards are used to playing with each other from the excellent Bulls teams in the 1970s. Both Chet the Jet Walker and Bob Love were excellent scorers, though Love wasn’t as efficient as his other teammates in the starting lineup. The forwards off the bench provide versatility (Luol Deng and Toni Kukoc) plus rebounding and defense (Horace Grant). One of the bigger conflicts I had was whether to include Reggie Theus on this team, instead of Kukoc. Despite being a two-time all-star on the Bulls, Theus’s advanced stats were far inferior to Kukoc’s, so I went with Toni.

There are two very different centers on this team: Artis Gilmore, a traditional big man with the size to rebound, protect the paint, and score down low, and Joakim Noah, a smaller player who relies more on quickness, energy, and will. Noah’s passing skills will be helpful for a team that will play long stretches without a traditional point guard.

This team should shine on the defensive end of the court. Pippen, Jordan, Van Lier, Sloan, Noah, Grant, Deng, and Love constitute one of the best collective defensive units in this tournament. Offensively, they have a nice mix of scorers, but spacing will be a big issue. The best players in franchise history simply were not great three-point shooters, and I could not justify selecting a three-point specialist (like John Paxson) ahead of a superior all-around player (like Norm Van Lier). This is one of the most interesting teams to project, with many versatile pieces, but clear flaws.

Coach – Phil Jackson

All-Time Franchise Winning Percentage (through 2014-15): .522